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Sorry , i read that as a blp. You are right it is a dualtec so yes it is as a general statement suitable. Multicore cable is used for additional circuits etc. As a general rule you would use 6 core. On an EOL panel this would allow a spare pair at each device. Bellbox wise Yes you do pretty much get what you pay for as with most things. Customers tend to choose bellboxes based on apperance, sound output and current draw. Also installers like to identify their systems with same bell etc, that is why you have multiple covers for the same sounders.

Andy ill try to answer your questions below 1, Its not normally a good idea to use a PIR in a garage due to the environment. Id advise a dualtec based detector. 2, Keypads are not interchangable normally. they will only work on the panel they are designed for. In this case the texecom premier 3, Any panel that supports prox can do this, ie texecom premier, honeywell galaxy. Even the humble accenta can. 4, Depends on the risk. Insurance co's tend to prefer external doors as well as space protection. It is general good practice. 5, Yes, IMHO Texecom premier is a fine panel. Panel choice is a difficult one. Its what your trained on / used to generally. For example while the prem is a fine panel i dont have one at home. I have a galaxy dimension. Recommending kit for a site I havnt seen or know little about is difficult. Might be better to upload a site plan? so we can get a feel for the risk etc

you cant wire the fire alarm panel directly to any 12v sounder as its 24v. It will damage the sounder. YOu could however use a 24v relay on the fire panel to give you a clean contact to switch the sounder from the intruder power supply. But id just wire into a zone on the panel programmed as fire.

If your using an eol panel then Yes std door contacts do not include eol resistors.

Ravis I have just checked and i think you have your prices wrong. Ours is lower for a 4e and a cover, and with our flat rate shipping of 3.99 our delivery is significantly less also. James

Accounts will lower the price on monday thanks for that Ravis. re the bell yes the surround will either be blue or clear depending on the colour ordered, but the 4E is the economy version. It has a lower sound output and only a single internal sounder over the normal higher specced 4

I would advise you have a look at the connections as just putting wires in one connection or the other could blow your panel or the bell.

The strobe- on the gen4 is the switched output for the strobe. Your strobe itself will need the switched neg to trigger it. Depending on your bell (some bells use a switched pos strobe) do you have a picture of the bell connections or know what it is?

Honeywell do not supply engineer manuals with their bigger panels. We can send an electronic version if required for panels that have bee ordered. Support

The only way to be 100% is to measure the current as installed. You can make make a rough calculation from the manufactures supplied specs so generic pir (is215) = 16mA Prox keypad (Texecom premier) = 90mA Smoke detector (Menvier M12) = 1mA Door contacts wont use any current Panel (texecom premier) = 70mA SAB (AG6) = 35mA Totals Pirs 6x16 = 96mA Keypads 2 x90 = 180mA smoke = 2x1 = 2mA Panel = 70mA SAB = 35mA total = 383mA WOrking it out the BS4737 way (8 hours standby + 30mins alarm) = 383 x 8 = 3064mA I would add a 10% margin to allow for battery aging 3064 + 306mA = 3370mA There isnt a battery that size so id use a 7A/h battery (7000mA/h) that would give approx 15 hours standby time. Obviously these are calculated values and you need to confirm them with a meter.

I agree with Fastcars' post

Which code are you trying to reset and do you know any existing codes?

Chris Your battery needs to be sized based on the load. There are minumum requirements re standby time depending on the version of the regs your using, ie older BS4737 or newer BS EN 50131 re smoke detector any of the texecom unit will work fine but personally id use a menvier M12 unit as its 3 sensors in one and can be programmed at the sensor to detect as required, ie heat / smoke / rate of rise or a combination of those. Door contacts You can use any normal double pole contact and fit eol resistors or use a contact with built in resistors ie the elmdene / knight graded units.

Emergency Lighting Routine Testing Requirements EN50172:2005 requires that at times of minimum risk the system is routinely tested. The following regime taken directly from the standard shows how often and what should be tested. This is only a brief overview and full consultation with the standard is advised Daily A visual inspection of every maintained emergency luminaire to ensure the lamp is operating correctly and in central or generator based systems that the control panel or indicators are showing normal conditions. Any faults must be entered into the system logbook and a check that any previously reported faults have received attention. Monthly * Self-contained emergency luminaires should be energized from their internal batteries by simulation of the supply, for sufficient time to ensure correct lamp operation and light output. * Central systems shall be energized from their batteries for a period not exceeding 25% of their capacity and all emergency luminaires checked for correct lamp operation and light output. * Generator systems shall be energised for their full rated duration and the lamps checked for correct operation and light output throughout the test. Six Monthly * All self-contained and central battery 3 hour emergency systems shall be continuously energized from their internal battery packs for a period of one-hour and the lamps checked for correct operation and light output. * Generator supplied systems should have the monthly test applied. Three Yearly * Self-contained emergency luminaires shall be energized from their internal batteries for their full rated duration and the lamps checked for correct operation and light output throughout the test. * Central systems shall be energised for their full rated duration and the lamps checked for correct operation and light output throughout the test. Note For Self-contained emergency luminaires the 3 year test should be carried out annually

No Problem, glad you sorted it. Nice soldering by the way!

Have you set 4.6.1 GSM Installation to 'Installed' In the installation menu ?

can you use the other gsm module functions or is it just sms that fails?

The sim doesnt have a sim lock on it does it? Have you tested it works in a phone?

You will need to contact honeywell, it is only available to licenced installers.

Ravis, i think Bobs intention was to have the backlight illuminated all the time, not just during keypress's etc.

Id recommend the M12 detector here. Utilises 6 core intruder cable, is 12v and has a N/C relay. Is programmable for optical smoke/ fixed heat/ rate of rise heat. http://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=638

Also the spec of the resistor is relevant, you can use any that match that spec. I would suggest they are 4k7 not 47k. We do have packs of resistors for various panels listed. But as above i would of assumed a pack would come witrh the panel

BOb There is an unsupported way. The Accenta keypad uses 2 transistors to control the backlight. These can be bypassed. Obviously any pcb mod will invalidate the warranty and is not a security warehouse supported mod. Anyway I have attached a picture showing the location of the transistors.

MIght be easier and more stable to add a gsm dialler with hardwired inputs.

no if you use eol without pairing you will have 8 zones, but with individual tamper detection. using zone doubling would give 16 circuits