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Hi You will need a keypad fro programming etc, but yes the easy set is compatible with the old G3 optima/accenta. If you have a look on the store you will find a accenta/optima g3 user manual. Im afraid that engineer manuals are not available on the forum, if you purchased from us and have your order number, you can email technical and they will send the correct manual.
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When designing an intruder alarm systems some basic information needs to be gathered. Apart from the specialist regulations (BS 4737 has been withdrawn) of BS EN 50131, PD6662, DD243 etc, BS 7671 and Part P is still relevant for cable sizing, methods of fixing recording voltages etc. But lets start with some basics 1, Domestic Installations Probably one of the most common systems. This would usually be a Grade 1 or 2x (both audible only). A risk assessment must be carried out and this will decide grade. Also the insurance company may have some input on a minimum grade they will accept. Look for things like easy access points, flat roofs, weak doors etc. These areas need special attention and may require additional protection such as vibration sensors or door contacts. Consider how you would gain entry yourself, this will highlight potential weak points. But generally a system design will consist of door contacts on the front and possibly rear doors, movement detection in the hallway, lounge, kitchen and landing. The idea of just doing the landing upstairs is any intruder will have to cross the landing when changing rooms. There may be a case for additional protection ie landing window due to flat roof, master bedroom PIR or Panic button, or high tech equipment in a study. Also garages may need some protection. The keypad is usually fitted in a convenient position in the hallway. Some keypads have on-board PA features, so the keypad should always be accessible if need in an emergency. You should also fit an internal sounder so that exit tones can be heard throughout the exit route, and will also function as an internal sounder. External sounders should be fitted as high as practicable, and the cable should not be visible. You may also consider smoke or gas detection, these are getting more popular along with 'fobs' for ease of use. Once you have a basic design then you can quote the system based on the amount of equipment needed. As a rough guide a professional install of a grade 2x system with 4 - 5 PIR's should take 2 man days. There are companies that can do it in 1 or even a few hours but to do the install properly you should allow 2 days at your labour rate. Cables should be routed under boards, away from any existing cabling and fixed where necessary. Care should be taken when running a new cable through holes with existing cables (i.e. an upgrade) as pulling the cables through too quickly will burn the existing cables. Once you have all your cables in place from all your points to the control location, you will be ready for the Second Fix. Second Fix All equipment must be securely fixed. Normally on a plaster wall, wall plugs and screws of the correct size for the weight of the device will be used. The only exception to this is the sounder where you must use screws of a No. 10 in size and must protrude through the back plate at least 2 Inches. Connections See the manuals for detailed wiring instructions such as tamper series loops, or eol wiring. Most grade 1 and 2x systems will use a 'double pole' topology. i.e. the alarm contacts will be wired in to 1 pair of wires and the tamer will be on a 2nd pair. So there will be 2 'poles' at the detector. EOL wiring usually consists of 2 End Of Line resistors (value depends on manufacturer galaxy 1k and 1k), this allows for the alarm and tamper to be on the same pair and the panel can calculate what is in alarm by measuring the resistance of the circuit. The higher security grade 3 systems utilise anti-mask and an additional resistor is used to monitor the mask detector. PA devices usually only have an alarm pair. Testing Once your system is fully connected you need to perform various performance tests, ie walk tests etc as detailed in the manual of the control equipment you are fitting. Follow these steps tp check the operational performance. You should also record the system record checks, ie the 'readings'. These consist of the battery charging voltage, disconnect the battery and meter between +ve and -ve the reading obtained should be approx 13.6 - 13.9v. AC input voltage which should be around 220-240v. The voltage at each detector, and the resistance of the cable to each device. Alarm cable should be around 9 Ohms per 100m. Handover Show the customer how to use the system fully, change any default manager and user codes. Usually you will have your own engineer code that you will program up. While some panels allow you to 'lock' the engineer code to prevent takeover, many engineers consider this bad practice so be sure you understand the implications of you intend to use this feature. Sign the completion paperwork and obviously collect payment. We would advise your service contact details are clearly marked on the control equipment. 2, Commercial Installations As with a domestic install but will probably be a higher risk, so additional protection will be required. As most commercial sites have few people to hear an alarm some sort of remote signalling is preferred, be that a voice/speech dialler or monitoring via an alarm receiving centre.
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Im afraid the 9800 is now long obsolete and parts are no longer available. The 9651 or 9751 are both suitable replacements
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Martin All the modern Wireless equipment is 868 and yes the 920 listed is an 868 part.
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Im afraid the old xm based accenta is long obsolete. The new keypad is not supported. Id advise you contact a local approved installer to see if they can help as they may have old stock, or you may be in need of an upgrade.
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Rashid We have various User Manuals Available for free download from the store. The 9448 is currently listed. If you need additional manuals not listed please either note it in the forum as a request or email us at technical. Tech Support
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Hi Baxall have now ceased trading but the baxall zt4 is a long obsolete part. What is it your controlling? It might be better to look at a bbv part as this should work (depending on your telemetry reciever) or a DM digital sprite. Your options are fairly limited due to using an up the coax FSK telemetry. If you can provide more details we will probably be able to suggest an alternative. Tech Support
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Yes we can do that but you need to email sales and give them your vat number. Once this is verified to match your account we will then issue you a unique code to enter during checkout that will rate all your orders at 0% vat. Tech Support
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Martin Yes we can supply to sweden, if you continue through the process as normal the system will calculate your shipping costs depending upon the items ordered.
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Yes as above if used ona fire door it must have a fail safe means of opening the door in the event of a fire. This could be a breakglass or the 'yale' if fitted
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Geoff While changing VCR's is not a difficult task Id still advise you contact an engineer or your installer. There were a few digital vcr replacements (ie the vista solo etc) but these have been phased out now due to lack of demand, as most vhs based systems have either been replaced with digital, or continuing for whatever reason with analogue. Also the cost now of multi input dvr's has dropped considerably. DVD's were never really used for security due to the very short recording time and the technology not being as flexible as tape. Hard disk based Digital Video Recorders have taken over now. Id advise you have a look at the DM or DM ECO range of recorders.
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PC connection to Wireless Control Panels
Secware_Tech6 replied to Helmut1971's topic in Intruder Alarms
Helmut. Risco keep very tight control of the software for their control panels and as such its only available to registered installers direct form risco. Scantronic have a similar policy. Texecom lead the way in software availabilty and you might want to consider using wintex and texecom wireless equipment instead. Im sure this position will change in the future but currently we can only provide software to registered installers for the above control panels. -
Scantronic are a manufacturer not an installer. If you currently dont have a contract on your system then id advise you find a local nsi gold approved company in your area. www.nsi.org.uk Alternatively one of our installers in your area may reply to your post.
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The 9427 is a keypad that usually connects to a 9448 control panel. The 9448 is a basic Scantronic Intruder Alarm Panel. It may have smoke detectors etc wired into it but it is not a fire alarm. We have User manuals for all popular control panels on the site, currently available as a free download. If the manual you require isnt there then drop an email to technical@securitywarehouse.co.uk and we will endeavour to add it. The user manual will provide basic operation notes etc. I have attached a brief explanation of the Icons / images on the keypad below.
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Micheal we have various installers in london that may be able to help and they will reply here or pm you. Alternativly have a look at nsi.org.uk and find a local NSI Gold installer in your area.
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Speaking / Talking External Sounder
Secware_Tech6 replied to Pringles11's topic in Security Lighting
Pringles The multispeech can run any 16Ohm speaker, so yes it can be used in an internal environment with conventional speakers, but it can also be connected to horn speakers and they can be used outside. If using a few speaker / horns you will need a seperate amplifier to run these and connect the putput from the multispeech to the amplifier. Most external speakers are designed for '100v' line pa amplifiers if connecting a horn directly to the multispeech ensure that you have one that has a 16 or 8 ohm setting. -
Vishal The panel is reporting that it has 'exit faults' during setting. This means that detectors are activating as you leave the protected area and is normal. The panel is letting you know for example that a door is open and not all ok. It should then change back to normal as you vacate the area, You then know the alarm is setting fine.
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The restriction on battery size on this panel and the optima is due to the physical size restriction as its a 'compact' enclosure. The charging circuit is capreble of using a bigger battery but this will not fit in the case. Any 1.9-2.4 A/h battery should have the same physical dimensions and so will fit.
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Craig Tech Support is open throughout the break but the warehouse is running on minimal staff during the shutdown period. Orders are being taken and are being processed but normal service will resume on the 3rd of January
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Wiring Multiple EOL Devices on a single zone
Secware_Tech6 replied to Eddie-Secure2's topic in Intruder Alarms
The best way is not to wire multiple devices per zone but dedicate each device to its own zone. Zones can then be 'grouped' into separate areas for part setting etc. But if required for double doors etc then see the attached diagram. -
Barry I assume you have checked there is good signal in the area you have fitted the dialler and it is not located inside a metal panel? If not then it sounds like you might have a faulty unit. If you believe you have a faulty one please contact us at technical@securitywarehouse.co.uk, we will then authorise an rma number and returns will contact you to swap it. Tech
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Geoff, I would recommend the ACT prox keypads for your application. The compact is programmed using shadow cards and you need to keep a duplicate of every card / tag that is issued. The act system uses the keypad for programming so deleting a lost card is a simple as entering the user number to be deleted. This will also save in the long term as you dont need to buy 2 cards (user and shadow) for every user. The act 5 system has a limit of 50 users though, if this isnt enough have a look at the smart2 1080. The 1080 has the advantage of being able to network with upto 8 other doors and connect to a pc at a later date. Tech
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Paul Yes those units are compatible, and you can add additional floodlights to the system as required. The buzzer will activate at all times but the lights will not come on if its daylight if the night sensor has been adjusted. Tech
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Dave The recommended placement for sensors does depend on the sensor, but generalising a fair bit, you shouldnt have detectors pointed towards windows or above heat sources. Real fires should also be avoided. Id advise mounting your sensors looking into the room. Sensor placement can only be decided during the risk assesment, ie the designer needs to assess the risk of all rooms, if the study is 3 stories up and has no external access then its unlikly it requires a sensor, but the groundfloor study most probably will. Depending upon ease of access and value in the room will decide if that area requires a sensor. Its usual in a house for example that you would protect the all ground floor rooms, and all 1st floor rooms + with easy access (ie flat roofs). That usually means all downstairs rooms and the landing.
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