ravis94 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hello, I am planning on getting a new intruder alamr panel. My accenta g4 is not as reliable as you may think. With the dan thing making a buzzing noise thru the speakers, display going funny, LEDs flickering and as many other faults you could think of! I am planning on buying a scantronic 9448 control panel (the control box with 1 RKP). I have 5 current intruder ones (1 panic), 1 fire and one spare. Is it possible to have a fire alarm zone on this unit? And once I fit it, will I need an engineer code? Im presuming it starts with 7 and ends in 0. I wont put the whole code on here to save any problems. I also would like to know if it is programmed with a full menu or with programming codes such as 42 or 12 etc... Can 1 zone be set as an entry exit and most importantly is there an internal speaker and aux 12v for the powered detectors? It seems to be a very good panel by certain reviews just like the rest of scantronics products if im correct! So just to sum it all up: Does it have 7 zones? Does it need an engineer code? is it supplied wiht the panel? can it have a fire alarm zone? is it easy to programme? Can it have an internal speaker? Does it have auxiliary power (12v for powered detectors) Does it have programmable entry/exit time? Please help as I am planning on buying it very very soon! Thankyouuu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secware_Tech6 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 ravi Personally id get to the bottom of whatis wrong with your accenta as its a better panel, but. Does it have 7 zones? Yes Does it need an engineer code? is it supplied wiht the panel? It will be supplied with the panel can it have a fire alarm zone? Yes is it easy to programme? Depends on what you class as easy, id say yes though Can it have an internal speaker? Yes Does it have auxiliary power (12v for powered detectors) Yes Does it have programmable entry/exit time? Yes Hope that helps Support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravis94 Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 Damn! That was a really fast reply!! What I mean by easy to programme is like the texecom veruitas you have to use 2 digit codes to set commands like 62 for entry time then you type in the tme you want... I will read the manual through 3 times before I start playing with it LOL! Also, what sort of fire detectors can I use a I am adding a line of them in my house. Can I use a tandard fire alarm detector like an apollo s65 or hochiki slr-e3 (I think its that one!). I know that the fire circuit is usually closed and when the circuit is opened i.e the detector activating the alarm will sound. Unlike a fire panel where it is usually open and then it closes to activate. I also would like to trst an old callpoint I found and may just install that! Its a KAC slide front with LED If I set a zone to fire activation will the mode change form normally closed to normally open like a fire alarm panel? And can any zone be programmed as a fire alarm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secware_Tech6 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 std smoke sensors for fire alarms are 24v and not normally closed have a look at a menvier m12 in the intruder smoke detector section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravis94 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Okay then, I am not sure about your listing on the site. the item I want is a: Can you please tell me if both the following items come with seperate RKP units please: Scantronic 9448EUR-95 CONTROL PANEL C/W 9427EUR-80 RKP GRADE1 SCANTRONIC 9448EUR-90 And is there one unit of each in stock? Its just that in the 9448EUR-90 picture it shows it with 2 rkp's. Im just a little confused. Can you clarify both for me please! Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secware_Tech6 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 the balnk version comes with a keypad, the unit with an onboard has no keypads included but will take additional keypads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravis94 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 oh okay. and is the 95 version in stock? do you offer any cheaper postage like royal mail 1st or 2nd class??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secware_Tech6 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 To protect our customers from fraud etc we require a signature for all deliveries. Due to this we cannot use the normal post service. The stock level is shown on each product page. Support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravis94 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Last thing, is the volume of the internal sounder adjustable? And do I need to power this thing up by batteries first or by mains?? Are these even reliable? I keep reading bad things about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secware_Tech6 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 they are reliable but they are a bottom end pro panel. I personally wouldnt use one, but only because i think they are basic, not because there is anything wrong with them. The volume of some tones are adjustable but again if you want full flexability you will need a much higher end panel. I would powerup up mains first then battery but the manual will advise. Support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravis94 Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 Hello again, I placed the order yesterday for the following: 1X scantronic 9448 panel with rkp 4X SECWARE SC517/WH White 1X 16 ohm internal speaker 1X esp quest pir Can you please specify how to wire the SECWARE SC517/WH White to a zone as I know the texecom ones are absolute rubbish from my old system (replaced them about 7 times). It says there are 5 screws but can you detail how it wires up to save me time? And when will I recieve this order, will it be able to get despatched on monday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secware_Tech6 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 The warehouse is closed on monday as its a bank holiday but it will go out tues. To wire a contact in of that type there are 5 terminals. 2 silver connections and the rest brass. The brass connections are purly for joints etc and do not connect to anything, the silver scres are the contact. So as your wiring double pole you need to wire the zone to those 2 terminals. You should also wire in a tamper circuit and short these together on one of the junction screws (brass ones) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravis94 Posted May 4, 2009 Author Share Posted May 4, 2009 Oh okay brilliant. Ive taken off the old control panel and keypad today and some faulty devices which I have bought replacements from yourselves! I bet this is the longest thread on this forum isnt it!! On the scantronic 9448 can any zone be programmed as a fire zone or entry exit? or is it factory defined zones only? Will a 2.1ah battery fit in this control panel too? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secware_Tech6 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 yes on all counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secware_Tech6 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 depends on the manufacturer. BUt usually SAB = self actuating Bell, and SCB - self contained bell. Usually an SAB only uses its internal battery when severed from the panel. WHereas an SCB uses its internal battery at all times for activations. You would normally use scb to lower the alarm demand on the panel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravis94 Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Hi, I got the panel today and its the scanny 9448. Ive installed 90% but want to change my bellbox next week when i buy it. I have tamper lines on my devices and that is all fine. Its just the damn tamper light will not turn off which wont let me set the stupid thing!! I hink its the bellbox tamper line. Is it posible to short out that tamper by wiring it into another terminal because all of this work will have to go on hold til next week if I cant sort it!! I am not fussed about the tamper anyway. Please help!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secware_Tech6 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 YOu need to link the tamper return to 0v Support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravis94 Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Lol! I was tood there for 2 hours trying to figure out which bloody terminal it went into!! Thankyou so much for your swift responses and information. I will go and wire that on now then! Cheers Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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